Hands Off, My Loots!

Ok, I’ve been having a lot of fun doing the scamming thing lately.  I can’t believe I’ve never really put forth the tiny bit of effort that it requires before now.  So, that’s one thing that I will be adding to the site, new scam reports.  I’m not going to do it for every scam since most of them are pretty trivial and not that entertaining…so I’ll most likely wrap a few of them together from time to time in order to get a good post out of it.

This post, to start the Scam series off only contains one scam though…for the simple fact that I’ve made it a goal for myself to start including images in most of my posts…so wanted to start that process now rather than waiting down the line and deciding not to do it…

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So, you all should know about my recent 15 Billion ISK scam, if not…go read it if you want.  This has gotten me hooked on doing the recruitment scams, and although a lot fail, always bet on stupid.

I normally just chill in the recruitment channel in game, but decided to hit up the recruitment forums themselves this time and it turned out to be a decent choice.  I’m not sure if I will keep using the forum though, for the simple fact that the Misfits are currently recruiting and I’m not sure if people posting in their threads would hurt our recruitment that much (maybe maybe not…it could also work in our favor by turning people towards us that like this kind of thing…which is of course the type of people we are looking for).

Anyway, I didn’t have to look very far, as on the first page of the Recruitment Forums I found a mark.  Mr. DingoGS, newly returning player looking for a corp out in 0.0 that is actually similar to the Misfits (he actually might have been a decent addition…other than the fact he wasn’t smart enough not to fall for a recruitment scam…if he had said no to paying me, he’d probably be a Misfit right now).

To work I go!

note: this is not actually a really interesting story at all…and is quite boring at some times…so tl;dr for people that don’t wanna read it…I scammed a dude for ~150mil ISK…and he didn’t produce many Tears…that’s about it.  I’ll make sure my other ones after this are much more entertaining…I just wanted to post some pictures for once (and the pictures aren’t even that impressive…lol)

[ 2011.03.01 23:06:34 ] Cyberin > greetings, just saw your post on the forums
[ 2011.03.01 23:07:06 ] Cyberin > we are recruiting at the moment, figured I’d tell you a bit about us then we can go from there
[ 2011.03.01 23:07:08 ] DingoGS > then you know what iam looking for
[ 2011.03.01 23:07:25 ] DingoGS > yup go ahead, please
[ 2011.03.01 23:07:49 ] Cyberin > We currently live in NPC Nullsec (Syndicate) because there’s plenty of pvp out here, and we don’t really want the hassle of sov at the moment (not ruled out in the future)
[ 2011.03.01 23:08:28 ] Cyberin > we have at least 4-5 ops a week (usually 7 or more), that range from normal roams, to black ops stuff (redacted for OPSEC)
[ 2011.03.01 23:08:56 ] Cyberin > we are a member of a good sized alliance and one of the major players in the area of syndicate that we reside in, and a VERY laid back bunch of people
[ 2011.03.01 23:09:01 ] Cyberin > fly what you want, do what you want style
[ 2011.03.01 23:09:22 ] Cyberin > as well as plenty of knowledgeable people to help learn anything you may have questions about
[ 2011.03.01 23:09:56 ] Cyberin > and depending on how you prefer to fly, sometimes we roam in gangs of 5, sometimes we do it in gangs of 40, so there’s plenty to do
[ 2011.03.01 23:10:12 ] DingoGS > what timezone?
[ 2011.03.01 23:10:25 ] Cyberin > mostly US, a few euros
[ 2011.03.01 23:10:58 ] Cyberin > and to show how active we are, you can check out the killboard if interested http://droog.rwpcomputers.com/
[ 2011.03.01 23:11:10 ] DingoGS > (sec, checking)
[ 2011.03.01 23:12:49 ] DingoGS > so yall fly BC-BS sized stuff for the most part right?
[ 2011.03.01 23:13:02 ] Cyberin > normally BC and below t1/t2
[ 2011.03.01 23:13:17 ] Cyberin > sometimes BS (only when we know we can get a fight with them)
[ 2011.03.01 23:13:24 ] Cyberin > roams are generally BC and smaller though
[ 2011.03.01 23:13:51 ] Cyberin > sometimes when we get bored we’ll drop some carriers on idiots being stupid in syndicate for lols

I find the best thing to do, is get the info out there right away…and lay it on thick (actually, in this instance…pretty much all of what I said was true, because that’s the kind of corp he was looking for), but I tailor whatever I say to whatever the Mark is looking for.

[ 2011.03.01 23:14:05 ] DingoGS > nice, what about supplies, im a bit rusty on the map atm, so how do you get supplies in your 0.0 space if yall dont have sov? or its close enough to highsec
[ 2011.03.01 23:14:42 ] Cyberin > it’s about 8 jumps from highsec, and we have a jump freighter pilot and a few carriers for logistics
[ 2011.03.01 23:15:17 ] DingoGS > no ship replacement or anything like right?
[ 2011.03.01 23:15:29 ] DingoGS > so self sustanied pilots
[ 2011.03.01 23:16:00 ] Cyberin > the alliance offers inty and cruiser sized replacement i believe, and on ops the FCs usually tell everyone to give all the loot to people that lose ships
[ 2011.03.01 23:16:17 ] Cyberin > so you are expected to be sulf sustained, but normally you’ll get back something if you die
[ 2011.03.01 23:17:26 ] DingoGS > one last thing, you said you have around 4+ ops a week, however, in normal days where are no official ops going on, do yall have like normal gangs roaming around for fun?
[ 2011.03.01 23:17:44 ] DingoGS > i mean, aside from normal ops, i guess a normal day i can probably find a gang to have fun with?
[ 2011.03.01 23:18:18 ] Cyberin > there are normally people in the alliance roaming around, but we as a corp are actually trying to get some recruits in just for that purpose.

Another very important thing to get out is offering logistics services for their gear.  In this case, this person didn’t actually have much of anything to bring out and needed time later to get stuff ready for movement…so meh on this guy…had to settle with what I got in the end…still better than nothing.

[ 2011.03.01 23:19:31 ] DingoGS > its ratting recommended in yalls system? meaning they are not often roamed by other enemy corps/alliances
[ 2011.03.01 23:20:06 ] DingoGS > im a awake player, but i dont like to play against odds lolz
[ 2011.03.01 23:20:13 ] DingoGS > (im just wondering)
[ 2011.03.01 23:20:32 ] Cyberin > there’s a few systems around here you can rat in yes
[ 2011.03.01 23:20:55 ] Cyberin > sometimes we’ll get some people in our home system that afk just to be annoying, but there’s like 4-5 other systems around here that are normally pretty empty

maybe lies, maybe not…who knows…bleh

[ 2011.03.01 23:22:31 ] DingoGS > okay, well to be honest it sounds really promising to me, however im not gona rush deciding and im gona wait to see what else i get offered with, i will probably make my decision tomorrow, its that cool with you?
[ 2011.03.01 23:23:24 ] Cyberin > yeah, just so you know though, if you do decide, we’ll need a limited API to review (background check) and we have a security deposit that you’ll get back after 4 weeks to insure you don’t steal anything from the corp hangers, etc
[ 2011.03.01 23:23:38 ] Cyberin > which is 150mil (because that’s about what’s in the hangers at all times)
[ 2011.03.01 23:24:38 ] DingoGS > hum, i may have to run some missions b4 joining then lolz, i have to buy my plex to remain playing so i wont have that much just yet
[ 2011.03.01 23:26:14 ] DingoGS > probably gona take me 3-4 days to make that much (probably less but hem)
[ 2011.03.01 23:26:17 ] DingoGS > meh)

have to make sure to get the fact about paying in near the end…that way they are already thinking about joining and it makes it less of a choice for them to make.  Then, when he said he wanted to wait until tomorrow, I had to add in a bit more stuff to make him happy about it hoping he’d choose me over someone else.

[ 2011.03.01 23:26:23 ] Cyberin > lol, alrighty, we might be able to waive the fee or accept items as collateral for the short term, etc, will have to talk to the boss
[ 2011.03.01 23:26:45 ] Cyberin > there’s just so many people corp stealing these days we had to implement it to keep us safe at least
[ 2011.03.01 23:26:52 ] DingoGS > that would be wonderful =p i think i have a scorpion or hurricanes i can use for that lol
[ 2011.03.01 23:27:00 ] DingoGS > haha yeah i know, it have always been like this afaik
[ 2011.03.01 23:27:20 ] DingoGS > its the only game that i know with so much spying and backstabing and moles
[ 2011.03.01 23:27:24 ] DingoGS > but thats what makes it fun
[ 2011.03.01 23:29:05 ] Cyberin > yeah

Notice those last two lines right there?  You’d think with knowing that, he’d be smart enough not to pay to join a corp.  Oh well, more ISK for me.

Fast forward to today:
(I have removed a bunch of small talk from the rest of this chat log just to shorten it a bit, and it’s all not really relevant to anything anyway)

[ 2011.03.02 22:20:53 ] Cyberin > heya, just checking up to see how the corp search is going
[ 2011.03.02 22:21:01 ] DingoGS > hey
[ 2011.03.02 22:22:01 ] DingoGS > i am interested in joiningg
[ 2011.03.02 22:23:21 ] Cyberin > if you are interested in joining, one sec and i’ll get you a link to input your API into so i can review it
[ 2011.03.02 22:24:30 ] Cyberin > one sec and i’ll have that link, i seem to have misplaced it, lol
[ 2011.03.02 22:24:35 ] DingoGS > lol k
[ 2011.03.02 22:26:04 ] DingoGS > Username: DingoPJUser ID: 5487256API Key: 034FCC80273E43F1A570A5A5538DA3BFD017C8D6F4A549F2937F6FCF936B4DFC
[ 2011.03.02 22:26:10 ] Cyberin > http://zzj.itf-inc.com/eveapi/audit.php
[ 2011.03.02 22:26:11 ] DingoGS > asdf
[ 2011.03.02 22:26:13 ] DingoGS > ok
[ 2011.03.02 22:26:14 ] Cyberin > or that’ll work too, lol
[ 2011.03.02 22:27:11 ] DingoGS > okay
[ 2011.03.02 22:27:16 ] DingoGS > i inputed it

API stuff (feel free to check him out if you want to, I don’t think he’ll mind )  I usually get a limited API just so it’s not an issue with people not wanting to give full APIs.  I also like to check to see what good stuff they have to steal…though, in order to do that you’d need a full API…just depends on my mood if I want full or not.  I went with limited in this case because I knew he was just coming back and might not have much stuff…so I played it safe.

[ 2011.03.02 22:27:29 ] Cyberin > also, talked to the boss and he said it was cool if you don’t have the isk as the security deposit as long as you have items worth that much to use as collateral for the 4 week stasis period
[ 2011.03.02 22:27:50 ] DingoGS > i can give 100 mill isk and a scorpion for the time being
[ 2011.03.02 22:27:57 ] DingoGS > i will be broke after that tho lolz
[ 2011.03.02 22:28:27 ] Cyberin > alrighty

cha-ching

[ 2011.03.02 22:30:40 ] DingoGS > ty, one question tho
[ 2011.03.02 22:30:47 ] Cyberin > sure
[ 2011.03.02 22:30:56 ] DingoGS > if for any reason i want to leave b4 the 4 week period, will i get my stuff back?
[ 2011.03.02 22:30:59 ] DingoGS > or i will lose it?
[ 2011.03.02 22:31:10 ] DingoGS > (leaving in a proper manner of course)
[ 2011.03.02 22:31:29 ] Cyberin > as long as you don’t steal our stuff yes, you’ll get it back if you leave (after your roles are dropped)
[ 2011.03.02 22:31:50 ] DingoGS > okz and yeah
[ 2011.03.02 22:33:04 ] Cyberin > just gimme a short sec while i finish looking over the API
[ 2011.03.02 22:33:10 ] DingoGS > kk
[ 2011.03.02 22:33:18 ] DingoGS > feel free to ask any question

Of course I will give your stuff back if you decide to leave.  That would require to to be accepted though…which, most likely isn’t gonna happen sad to say.

[ 2011.03.02 22:34:27 ] Cyberin > alrighty, everything looks good if you want to go ahead and send the 100mil and contract scorp and put in an app we’ll get you accepted and in
[ 2011.03.02 22:34:45 ] DingoGS > to you?
[ 2011.03.02 22:35:19 ] Cyberin > you can contract it to me or the corp, either way is fine…I can stick it in the security hangers
[ 2011.03.02 22:35:20 ] DingoGS > i mean, i send the isk & contract to you?
[ 2011.03.02 22:35:27 ] DingoGS > k
[ 2011.03.02 22:36:54 ] DingoGS > done
[ 2011.03.02 22:38:12 ] Cyberin > got it

[ 2011.03.02 22:38:25 ] Cyberin > are you ready to move out here now or did you need time to get your stuff together to move?
[ 2011.03.02 22:38:53 ] DingoGS > ahm, i would need a bit of time to make isk and get me a ratting drake and some BBs to roam with
[ 2011.03.02 22:39:20 ] DingoGS > i just have my missin raven and a cane that its stuck somewhere
[ 2011.03.02 22:39:23 ] Cyberin > you’re API says you have 436,401,326.45 ISK, whatcha need more to buy a drake for, lol

After this there is all kinds of stuff about him needing a plex and asking about ships to train for, etc…it’s way too many lines of boring stuff so I’m not leaving it on this post that’s turning out to be a lot more boring that I thought it would be…but hey…I have pictures!

[ 2011.03.02 22:40:30 ] Cyberin > alrighty, one sec and i’ll get you accepted, once you get your stuff together let us know and we can jump it down for you
[ 2011.03.02 22:45:49 ] Cyberin > ok, well…since you don’t have anything else for me to take, I guess now is a good time to tell you that you should NEVER pay people to join a corp…because it’s ALWAYS a scam
[ 2011.03.02 22:46:05 ] DingoGS > -.-
[ 2011.03.02 22:46:47 ] Cyberin > though, i might be obliged to give it back if you can make a good haiku about being scammed
[ 2011.03.02 22:47:15 ] DingoGS > =/
[ 2011.03.02 22:48:07 ] Cyberin > i’ll even give you a little advice on how to write it if you don’t know how
[ 2011.03.02 22:48:08 ] Cyberin > http://www.wikihow.com/Write-a-Haiku-Poem
[ 2011.03.02 22:48:11 ] DingoGS > sad thing its that i thought it could be =/ but it looked so tempting that i took the risk
[ 2011.03.02 22:48:13 ] DingoGS > =/
[ 2011.03.02 22:48:28 ] Cyberin > the “looked so tempting” part is what should have made you say no
[ 2011.03.02 22:48:46 ] Cyberin > but i’m a nice guy, and i like haiku’s…so lets have it
[ 2011.03.02 22:49:00 ] DingoGS > beh, u just wana make more fun out of me
[ 2011.03.02 22:49:19 ] Cyberin > i just got 150mil from you, i don’t need to make any more fun
[ 2011.03.02 22:49:34 ] DingoGS > yeah, the same way you wanted to recruit me =/
[ 2011.03.02 22:50:08 ] Cyberin > we are actually recruiting, but one of our requirements is not being dumb enough to fall for recruitment scams sadly
[ 2011.03.02 22:50:40 ] DingoGS > beh =/ u cant really expect a player thats coming back to be on guard =/
[ 2011.03.02 22:51:17 ] Cyberin > i just recruited someone yesterday that was on guard, so that’s not entirely true
[ 2011.03.02 22:51:25 ] Cyberin > but anyway, haiku….really…get shit back
[ 2011.03.02 22:52:24 ] DingoGS > i took too much humilliation already =/ im not gona give you the pleasure, that i know its just 4 fun
[ 2011.03.02 22:52:38 ] DingoGS > maybe stupid once but not twice
[ 2011.03.02 22:53:04 ] Cyberin > lol, just for that i’ll give it back anyway, lol…
[ 2011.03.02 22:53:57 ] DingoGS > so i guess i lost all my chances to be recruited
[ 2011.03.02 22:54:04 ] Cyberin > Scorpion
[ 2011.03.02 22:54:15 ] DingoGS > lol
[ 2011.03.02 22:54:20 ] DingoGS > you really wana take me more money
[ 2011.03.02 22:54:23 ] DingoGS > im not that dumb
[ 2011.03.02 22:54:30 ] Cyberin > damn, had to make sure
[ 2011.03.02 22:54:42 ] DingoGS > as i said, stupid once, not twice =/
[ 2011.03.02 22:54:55 ] Cyberin > but yeah, shot gone…would be rather awkward being in a corp with people you’ve scammed…
[ 2011.03.02 22:55:42 ] DingoGS > =/
[ 2011.03.02 22:55:55 ] Cyberin > good luck finding a corp though, fly smart o/
[ 2011.03.02 22:56:25 ] DingoGS > have fun scamming ppl i guess =/

And done…I tried to see if he was dumb enough to accept the Scorpion back for $100mil…alas, he wizened up though…thanks for the fish Dingo!

Velocity just decided to open up recruitment for Misfit Toys, which makes me happy as I started bugging him about it a little week ago.  While the small group of us that currently make up the Misfits get along very well (we’ve known each other for a good amount of time in game now), we decided we needed some more people in corp so we can manage to get some decent gangs of our own from time to time and have fun during the day instead of waiting for nightly alliance ops.

I’m not going to copy and paste the recruitment message, but instead I’ll just mention that I am a recruitment officer for the corp and you can contact either myself, Velocity Prime, or Meccros in game; or join the “Misfit Cafe” channel if you are interested.  You can find details about what type of pilots were are looking for in VPs post over at VelociLogic. (also on EVEO Forums)

And…for those of you curious if this is another of my  recruitment scams…I swear you won’t have to pay anything to join…so that kinda limits the scam possibilities a bit (unless of course you are a spy, then there’s a 100mil ISK fee).

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I’ve been busy on my market/hauling alt this week so haven’t gotten much done in the way of funny stuff to post…but I did get a little bored and decided to scam someone out of their corporation shares (they were worthless as he was only worth like 100mil…but meh…boredom).  It’s not really funny at all, but here’s how easy it is to scam people these days.

I found this guy on the EVEO forums while searching for good deals…and this is what it turned into.

Warning…this isn’t funny in anyway, and is probably a pretty boring read…don’t say I didn’t warn you.

[ 2011.02.26 19:23:44 ] SupaSekritAlt > heya, i was curious how many shares you had to sell?
[ 2011.02.26 19:23:47 ] Batuka > hello
[ 2011.02.26 19:23:50 ] Batuka > 900
[ 2011.02.26 19:23:58 ] SupaSekritAlt > and how long you’ve been doing this? current profit margins? etc
[ 2011.02.26 19:24:05 ] Batuka > but i think i wil be only selling 800 of them
[ 2011.02.26 19:25:06 ] Batuka > i have started today and so far i have made 60 million isk but only been doing for a few hours and i only had 100 mill to start with and i have 90 mill in corp wallet buy orders 60 mill in sell orders and 60 mill in corp wallet from profit

Not really much to bother with, but I’ve already started so I might as well finish.

[ 2011.02.26 19:25:47 ] SupaSekritAlt > what are your trading skills like?
[ 2011.02.26 19:26:22 ] Batuka > not very good atm but i am going to train them soon as u see i am a skilled mission/pvp toon but am now trying out trading in a stion
[ 2011.02.26 19:26:52 ] Batuka > i have every trade skill able to be owned in my hanger atm ready to train
[ 2011.02.26 19:26:57 ] Batuka > some already trained

hmm…probably should have lied about that one Batuka…telling potential investors that your skills suck isn’t a very good idea.

[ 2011.02.26 19:27:38 ] SupaSekritAlt > do you have anything to provide as collateral to prevent against scam?  I’ve got tons of isk laying around and have been looking for people to invest in, i’d be willing to do a full 800-900mil, but it’s a pretty big risk with someone new like yourself

Funny enough, this isn’t a lie.  Also, it’s always good to make it seem like you are the one that could be scammed…just makes the whole thing play into your favor just a little bit more.

[ 2011.02.26 19:29:35 ] Batuka > well i do not have anythink to give as colateral exept my reputation if i diddnt have a good reputation i would not have any good uisnes for cheap ships if trading was to fail u would be given your isk back and i would give you your investments
[ 2011.02.26 19:30:01 ] SupaSekritAlt > that’s the point, you don’t have any reputation lol
[ 2011.02.26 19:30:07 ] Batuka > i will be increasing the last 200 shares to 3 mil per share as that way i can control people owning the hsares

When he says this, I’m thinking he’s trying to scam me now.  It’s a good tactic, once someone tells you they are in for X amount, you try and get them in for more.  I was very suspicious…but since I didn’t plan on paying anything anyway…it was a rather moot point.

[ 2011.02.26 19:30:33 ] SupaSekritAlt > would you be willing to send the shares first to insure i get them and don’t get scammed?
[ 2011.02.26 19:30:41 ] Batuka > exactly with youinvesting in me t will gain my reputation and i can get more investors in long term me getting more isk from the market meaning mor eisk for you

My EVE crashes right here…damn game.

[ 2011.02.26 19:33:34 ] SupaSekritAlt > sorry, eve died
[ 2011.02.26 19:33:35 ] Batuka > Batuka  investors wanted http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1474234&page=1
[ 2011.02.26 19:33:46 ] Batuka > Batuka  yes i would be willing to send half you send full ammount of isk i send other half ?
[ 2011.02.26 19:34:24 ] SupaSekritAlt > that doesn’t really keep me from getting scammed, i’d want all the shares up front, then the isk
[ 2011.02.26 19:35:04 ] Batuka > halwell considering if u bought half the shares then i would be at risk of loosing half my corp

Now I’m back to thinking he’s just an idiot and doesn’t know much about corp shares. (50% of shares /= 50% of corp).  Oh, and it’s losing…not loosing…jeez.

[ 2011.02.26 19:36:16 ] SupaSekritAlt > i could give you my limited API key to see that I actually have the cash and such if you’d like first? I’ve got over 18bil in cash right now, and quite a lot more in assets (i’m a trader myself)
[ 2011.02.26 19:36:49 ] Batuka > how about u deposite half the cash then i deposit all shares ?
[ 2011.02.26 19:37:24 ] Batuka > how many shares are you wanting ?
[ 2011.02.26 19:37:28 ] SupaSekritAlt > that doesn’t prevent me from getting scammed either.  Shares are worthless until you get the cash, isk isn’t
[ 2011.02.26 19:37:34 ] SupaSekritAlt > i’ll buy all of them
[ 2011.02.26 19:40:28 ] Batuka > ok so 700 mill for 700 then last 200 i was gona rise to 3 mill a piece would you be ok with that ? just so i can invest more isk

And again with the price raising…

[ 2011.02.26 19:40:50 ] Batuka > i weill transfer the shares first but what is there to say you arnt just going to run of with the shares ?
[ 2011.02.26 19:41:01 ] SupaSekritAlt > what would i do with worthless shares? lol
[ 2011.02.26 19:41:03 ] SupaSekritAlt > and yes, that’s fine
[ 2011.02.26 19:42:03 ] Batuka > 200x 3 = 600 +700 mill isk = 1.3 bill isk kk with that ?
[ 2011.02.26 19:42:17 ] SupaSekritAlt > yeah, that’s fine as long as you make me that 5% a month
[ 2011.02.26 19:43:07 ] Batuka > 5% per month of profit from that month and 15% if left in for 1 year kk ?
[ 2011.02.26 19:43:41 ] SupaSekritAlt > sounds good
[ 2011.02.26 19:43:44 ] Batuka > atm i will give you 800 shares to keep some for me kk ?
[ 2011.02.26 19:44:06 ] Batuka > infact no i will just transfer 900 send me isk for security though
[ 2011.02.26 19:44:44 ] SupaSekritAlt > i’m the one that needs security here, i’m paying you isk, you are giving me worthless stuff.  It’s send all or nothing.
[ 2011.02.26 19:44:59 ] SupaSekritAlt > (though if you want to keep 100 that is fine)

I’m still thinking he’s a scammer with this…he keeps trying to change his deal and get me to send him something (scammer desparation, if you can’t get it all…get something).  But in the end sends me all his shares (I’m still not convinced he’s not trying to scam…because he sent worthless shares trying to get my ISK…I would do the same thing).

[ 2011.02.26 19:45:22 ] Batuka > ok send me isk
[ 2011.02.26 19:45:52 ] SupaSekritAlt > no, thanks for the shares though

After he sent the shares and I said I wasn’t paying he threatened to out me, then said if I give him the shares back he would keep quite, etc.  Went on for about 15 minutes or so while I sat around trying to figure out how to steal his corp from him with the shares.  Turns out after asking in a few channels that I didn’t know how this mechanic worked either…I didn’t know I actually had to be in the corp to start a vote.  So being the nice guy I am (and not wanting this alt burned if I didn’t have to) I gave him the shares back.

Hopefully he doesn’t read my blog